It’s a rhetorical question since everyone understands how the Russian military operates. Ask a Syrian, assuming any are left.
Still, the carnage in Bucha is a gut-check moment for the anti-anti-Russia crowd, an opportunity to separate the proverbial men from the boys. Who’s so far gone that that they’re willing to swallow the Kremlin line that the Ukrainians murdered their own people?
In the light of heinous provocation of Ukrainian radicals in #Bucha Russia requested a meeting of UN #SecurityCouncil on Monday April 4
— Dmitry Polyanskiy (@Dpol_un) April 3, 2022
Tulsi Gabbard isn’t:
… and the people of Ukraine, that you pull your forces out now. It is still not too late to salvage the kinship felt between the Russian and Ukrainian people, as expressed in this video clip from a Ukrainian soldier. pic.twitter.com/TcS0c0Axq6
— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) April 3, 2022
Others are less squeamish:
Is it normal for an army that is already facing worldwide disinformation campaigns to massacre civilians right as they are leaving town, knowing that photos of the evidence will be captured hours later?
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) April 3, 2022
I’m keen to see where Tucker comes down in tonight’s monologue. My money’s on a “Russians probably did it but why can’t we ask questions?” cop-out.
Zelensky visited the newly liberated town today to see firsthand what Russian occupation looks like:
If you want to know the story behind these men’s dead bodies, read the interview with someone who stayed with them in a bomb shelter…until Russian soldiers came and shot each of them who had served in 2014-2105, or even had a tattoo of Ukraine’s trident. https://t.co/hneQeQywUi pic.twitter.com/yPKbmyJFX2
— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) April 4, 2022
Zelensky in Bucha pic.twitter.com/DOfY6ql09t
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 4, 2022
Times reporters are also there, interviewing witnesses who experienced the occupation. They happened to chat with the elderly woman featured in this clip that I posted yesterday and got the backstory on how that scene came to be. During the first days of the war, the woman’s daughter had seen tanks coming up the street and assumed they were Ukrainian; when she went out into her front yard to get a better look, she realized they were Russian. Too late — they shot her dead on the spot. Her mother, who’s 76, apparently couldn’t do more than simply cover the body with wood and plastic. It’s been lying there ever since.
A local coroner is back inside the town too and collecting the remains. There were too many to store in the morgue so they’ve dug a mass grave and are burying the bodies as quickly as possible:
Mr. Kaplishny said that before he left Bucha — as back-and-forth battles raged and then the Russian Army established control — he had buried 57 bodies in a cemetery. Fifteen of those people had died of natural causes, the rest from gunshot wounds, including point-blank shots, or from shrapnel. Three of the bodies were those of Ukrainian soldiers, he said.
Before leaving town in March, he said, he had arranged for a local backhoe operator to dig a mass grave in the yard of an Orthodox church. Without electricity for refrigeration, the morgue had become intolerable, and another solution was needed. “It was a horror,” he said…
By the end of the day, back in town, he said that he had picked up about 30 more bodies in a white van. Thirteen of them were men whose hands had been tied and who had been shot at close range in the head. He said he did not know the circumstances of their deaths but believed, based on their apparently recent deaths, that they were prisoners killed before the Russian Army withdrew…
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Svitlana Munich, a former classmate of the dead woman, stood nearby in tears. “They shot everyone they saw,” she said of the Russians. “They shot the gas pipe, too, and her mother was in the house.”
Here’s the scene from space:
NEW: Russian troops built a 45-foot long mass grave in a church yard after killing hundreds of Ukrainian civilians in massacres in Bucha, near the capital of Kyiv.
Ukrainian troops liberated the city as Russia recently retreated from positions near Kyiv.
📷:@Maxar pic.twitter.com/mr5n3jBrSW
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) April 3, 2022
At what point does a series of war crimes become something more?
Ed wrote earlier about the manifesto published in Russian state media today calling for the “purification” of Ukraine and “re-education” of any survivors. That logic is built on the lie at the heart of all Russian propaganda about the country, that Zelensky’s government has created a Nazi state. The moral urgency to smash a Nazi state is such that anything can be forgiven in the name of victory, at least in Russia’s view. Which means their approach to the conflict is trending towards genocide:
The official legal definition of genocide is “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such”. When I teach genocide I start by saying that this definition has huge problems because it doesn’t give us /2
— Eugene Finkel (@eugene_finkel) April 4, 2022
that doesn’t start as genocide might evolve into one when conditions change. Russian invasion, in my view, did not start with clear genocidal intent, but evolved into one. Regime change and colonial subjugation are by themselves not enough to constitute genocide. Second, more /4
— Eugene Finkel (@eugene_finkel) April 4, 2022
I know Russian. I have read a lot of Russian nationalist rhetoric in my life. This is not some wild intellectual fantasy, it is a clear, actionable statement of intent by a state agency. The UN definition is problematic, but in this case it fits like a glove
— Eugene Finkel (@eugene_finkel) April 4, 2022
Question: If the Russian army can’t defeat a “Nazi army” on the battlefield, can Putin logically refrain from using nuclear weapons to finish the Ukrainians? Russia can’t be expected to tolerate a “Nazi regime” right on its border whom it can’t dominate militarily, right?
How ordinary Russians feel about their country invading Ukraine pic.twitter.com/v3OZwjSvam
— Bojan Pancevski (@bopanc) April 4, 2022
Here’s Zelensky’s new video from last night. There’ll be many more illustrations of what kind of sons Russian mothers have raised before this is over.
Tough message from Zelensky tonight about discovered atrocities in Ukraine:
“This is how the Russian state will now be perceived. This is your image. Your culture and human appearance perished together with the Ukrainian men and women to whom you came” pic.twitter.com/mpkKPM9myZ
— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) April 3, 2022
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